Wednesday, April 7, 2010

9 Things Pharma Should Learn About Social Media from Dennis Urbaniak

If you didn’t get a chance to listen in on John Mack’s interview with VP U.S. Diabetes at sanofi-aventis Dennis Urbaniak yesterday, that’s too bad. It was one of the more interesting, enlightening and helpful conversations around pharma social media that I’ve heard in awhile.

The title was “What sanofi-aventis Learned from its Facebook Experience and What the Experts Recommend It Do Now.” But it was much more than that.

John – thanks so much for organizing and hosting.
Dennis – thanks for sharing your wisdom.

You can listen to the full podcast here. Also several people were live-tweeting the interview; just search by @durbaniak or #socpharm on Twitter to see the highlights. And Eileen O’Brien will be hosting the #socpharm tweetchat tonight at 8 pm EST and this will be a topic.

If you’re not familiar with the sanofi-aventis Facebook situation, there are many other resources where you can become familiar, so I’ll skip that part. Plus, sanofi-aventis is a long-time client of Intouch Solutions (my agency), so I’ve steered clear of blogging about it up to this point.

But I did want to share what was said yesterday – because it’s already public. And because it’s important.

Below are what I felt were the summary 9 key points of the podcast. It’s important to point out that Dennis was careful to say several times that his statements were his own opinions and not necessarily those of his company’s. Many of these tenets rang true to me and are things we’ve been discussing with many of our clients and counseling them on. And I'll say that these are from my own notes and are in my own words from listening to the podcast, but again, if you are interested, you can always hear the full podcast here. So here are the highlights as I see them:

9 Things Pharma Should Learn from Dennis Urbaniak About Social Media


1. Don’t execute a tactic without first having a strategy. This may seem elementary, but sanofi’aventis’ current Facebook predicament may be a good example of what happens when you have a tactic (“Let’s do Facebook”) without putting some thought and preparation into it first. Jumping in too quickly can lead to being forced into a reactionary position.

2. Don’t chase a particular channel. Don’t think about social media as in “I want a Twitter site” or “I want a YouTube channel.” Instead, think carefully about why you want to be involved in social media … who you want to listen to, learn from, and talk with. Think less about the channel itself and more about the dialogue you want to have. “Be platform agnostic.”

3. There’s a lot to learn before you jump in. Think about how to engage, how to respond. Learn about the different technologies and platforms such as Facebook, how they work, and their limitations.

4. Before engaging elsewhere, establish a credible presence of your own first. (Pharma, pay attention! This was a key learning that Dennis repeated several times.) This could come in the form of a corporate blog or disease state presence, for example. Your own credible presence will give you a platform for contributing to the community, and a place to go in times of need. It’s a place of your own to contribute to the conversation 24 hours a day, versus traditional channels. This will also give you a place to redirect to when comments are happening on sites not in your own control (such as rogue/hijacked presences).

5. Once you’re out there, you’re out there. You need to be clear about your intent and be prepared for both the positive and the negative conversations. State your terms and conditions. And have a plan in place for providing responses.

6. The more people that are creating personalities and relationships on your behalf, the better. The ability to speak well in the social media space will be a new competency that is much sought-after. Having multiple spokespeople allows your company to have a broader voice and persona, vs. just one person speaking on your behalf. This also provides coverage in case someone moves on.

7. Using social media to talk about your product is not the first thing you should be thinking of. There are many other opportunities and can be lots of different types of participants. A brand.com-type focus goes against being a contributing member of the community.

8. Social media is not a campaign. Marketers and communicators are used to thinking about their communications in terms of campaigns. But social media involvement needs to be a sustainable, long-term goal and commitment.

9. Pharma companies can still be involved in social media ahead of FDA social media guidance. We all know there is FDA guidance already in place that companies should follow (re: fair balance, safety, adverse events, etc.). Companies need to be responsible and follow those, as well as their own set of guidelines around objectives, who should participate, and the rules of the road. Creating these guidelines is critical, and takes collaboration across a number of disciplines and departments.
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Dennis closed with the idea that there is “lots of progress we need to make” as an industry. He made the choice to share his company’s learnings with other pharmaceutical companies – encouraging others to push – because he believes at his core that social media is a critical area for pharma.

I heard it loud and clear. My personal hope is that the other companies were listening too.

Thanks again to fellow pharma blogger John Mack for hosting the event, and to Dennis Urbaniak for sharing such valuable learnings within our own pharma marketing community.

8 comments:

Wendy W. Blackburn said...

I received this comment from an Anonymous poster, but when I published it, it disappeared. So I'm posting on behalf of Anonymous. And I couldn't have said it better myself!
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Wendy, Really great post.
Your point #4 is I believe the most important. It is the starting point for everything. It's been said by many in many ways, but it boils down to a patient being a person first and by a long way - if a patient is a wave, then a person is an ocean. Yes, that big and our challenge in pharma and healthcare likewise. How can a brand marketer who may be 30-40 years old, and who has been a sales rep before, possibly begin to understand what life is like for say a woman suffering from OA who has had 3 operations and is on painkillers. What is her perception of what life has become to be all about? What's it like for the family also? Where and what is her road forward? Is there a road forward? And why I should care and how can I help, as a brand marketer. That is why it is so inspiring to have all the sensitive, bright, forward reaching, sharing folks that a growing # of us all listen to, to educate, explain, suggest, advocate with passion, humility and a very real interest.

The Dharma-Blog by DharmaBuilt said...

Thanks for the summary Wendy - and thank you John and Dennis for the podcast conversation.

While I agree with much of the content and premise of the "9 things" - I do disagree with a couple of things (for which I'm sure I'll catch some flak):

#2 - Don't chase a particular channel

Wrong. You should be chasing the channels where your audience congregates - don't expect them to come to your website, ivory towers of content - besides, they don't even rank in the search engines anyway (SEO). If you did some strategic channel chasing (open Web platforms and technologies), you'd figure-out that you need to rethink your whole content distribution strategy and develop a digital coalition of touchpoints based upon the evolution of the Social Web. Blogs/RSS for starters...that will open-up a whole plethora of Social Web opportunities...

#8 - Social Media is not a Campaign.

True (to an extent), but with this blanket statement, you have effectively taken Social Media off-the-table (in terms of adoption) for most brands - who plan/budget according to discreet campaigns. It was hard enough to sell-in SEO (still is), but if you don't work these 'maintenance indefinite' instances into the established mindset of 'campaigns' - then we'll never get anywhere. This idea of 'campaigns' is what needs to change at the brand / budget / CFO level. And since that won't be changing any time soon - make Social Media a campaign!

I can implement a Social Media strategy and 'engine' based upon the idea of increasing the SERP rankings for a brands strategic keywords - since SEARCH is the primary avenue of approach. And I typically do this by chasing channels (FB, Twitter, LinkedIN, Blogs, iTunes, forums, Google Merchant Center, etc. - SEO/SEM/RSS/SMO/ORM) according to a 'campaign'.

If AE's are such a concern - then get on with the Best Practices development for handling them in Social Media - or risk becoming obsolete or marginalized as the Web evolves right past you...

Best,

~b

Kelley said...

Thanks for this synopis..and will definitely listen to the podcast. I agree with what anonymous wrote and wanted to add that pharma has so many different ways to participate in the social world for good and selling product may just be the piece that is the by-product of improved trust among key stakeholders..like patients! The social media term in some ways clouds what Dennis is fundamentally saying. It's not about the shiny object..it's about how pharma decides to use its value to participate in a dynamic conversation.

Judy said...

Wendy,
Excellent summary - thank you. I agree with Dharma-Blog that you must chase the channel. Why? Because it is the only way to learn.

The caveats? As you mentioned - have a strategy first. And that strategy could (and should) be different by channel.

Don't be shy. Benchmark to see what works and what does not. Do this within the pharma industry and outside (e.g. field sales force advocacy via SM is on the uptake in personal insurance and successfully feeding SEO value). Then test judiciously.

The tried and true still holds:
Listen & learn first. (Thank you much John & Dennis for executing against this point, and your willingness to share!) Then listen some more and learn some more. Dip your toe in the water by selectively participating. Expand (slowly) from there.

Remember too, there will be times you may need to participate in the conversation. And there may be times you need to let your customer advocates respond for you. Know when one or the other is best.

Thanks again Wendy!

Wendy W. Blackburn said...

Thanks for all the great comments and discussion. Regarding channel selection, you are absolutely right that the audience and objectives should choose the channel. I think the point was to avoid saying, for example, "I want a Twitter account" for no other reason than that you personally enjoy using Twitter, are familiar with Facebook, etc. It's okay to pick a channel - just do so with the right insights.

andrewspong said...

Thanks to you, Wendy, for this excellent summary, John Mack for setting up the interview, and Dennis Urbaniak for his candour.

Wendy W. Blackburn said...

For a similar viewpoint (written before this interview but published a day or two afterwards), see "Pharma: It's not about You Anymore" at http://www.pharmalive.com/magazines/medad/view.cfm?articleid=8818

(Co-authored by Faruk Capan and myself - thx to MedAdNews' dotPharma for the opportunity.)

Mark Baret said...

Thanks for shearing!